I've used tons of wheel weights with good luck ,until recently.
Having problems with zinc lately , and after going through cleaning my tools ,I sworn off the stuff.
I was stocking up on the stuff because they are going to stop using lead in WW by 2011.
There is a big outfit here in Tn. that makes WW,and they don't make zinc ones now , they do use scrap ones and zinc is getting mixed in with them all.
I broke down and bought a bunch of 90/5/5 from a pro smelter in In.
I can add pure lead to soften it or monotype to harden it.
It's great stuff and the guy packs it in wooden boxes for about 1.50 per # delivered .
If anyone wants his number let me know and I'll see if he minds me posting it here.
Southern Man
NO DAMN MAN KILLS ME AND LIVES
"General "Nathan Bedford Forrest

I'd like the number please. You can email me.......Creeker
lah@suddenlink.net

Creeker
I just got a quote from the smelter for 200# of 16 to 1.
He ask $1.95 a # to use plumbers lead and $2.25 to use foundry stock, foundry stock for tin in both.
He did'nt say if that was shipping and all.
I'm waiting on reply as to why it's so much higher than the 90/5/5 I got a month ago, and if it's OK to give out his info.
I'll get back with you.
Southern Man 

Thanks.........Creeker

EvilBay is another source of WW, this one is under a buck a lb, shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.com/50-lbs-Wheel-Weight-Lead_W0QQitemZ320348837288QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_
This one is a little over a buck, shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.com/60-LB-LEAD-WHEEL-WEIGHT-INGOTS-for-BULLETS-SINKERS_W0QQitemZ350175818834QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _
I'v been watching for casting stuff and these come up regularly.

AL

Al
I've been getting 125# buckets of WW regularly for free.
When you get your tools contaminated with zinc , by the time you get them clean you will not want to see any more WW.
Did you see that Lyman/ Freedom Arms mold sale on ebay today.
I started to let you know about it , but then thought you would not want the gas check design.

Creeker the smelter hasn't got back with me yet.
As soon as he does I'll let you know. 

Southern Man  

I think I'm just going to have to (bite the bullet) and order one. Want 300-325 gr keith and I'm not seeing them used.

boy o boy
I asked a question and did I get answers.
I know this is kind of late but thanks loads.
now that better weather is here maybe I can get out and try some of this stuff, thanks again,
ace

I was talking about the automated machines.  Many of the molds made are designed for use in them.
A square shoulder in the grooves gives better balance to the bullet,and allows more lube to be in the groove. It also allows the lube to smear off more consistently  in the barrel than a beveled one. That is what I have found in shooting 1000s of rounds, experimenting constantly, and reading incessantly.
If the beveled grooves were best, Elmer, in his experiments,of which he preformed a lot of, would have had no problem incorporating it in his design. But he was adiment  (bad spelling but cant get it right) about the square grooves. I believe he was right.
Why did you put bevels on your bullet? A simple cut off tool made to the correct thickness would have cut the grooves cheaply for your cherry. Making the beveled grooves must have been time consuming for the tool maker/machinist.

[QUOTE]A square shoulder in the grooves gives better balance to the bullet[/QUOTE]

How did you prove the balance thing? The bullet blueprint posted will make round holes in paper at 1300 yards so it must be balanced.

[QUOTE]It also allows the lube to smear off more consistently in the barrel than a beveled one.[/QUOTE]

How did you detect this?

[QUOTE]Why did you put bevels on your bullet? A simple cut off tool made to the correct thickness would have cut the grooves cheaply for your cherry. Making the beveled grooves must have been time consuming for the tool maker/machinist.[/QUOTE]

This is a question for Lyman Products. They cut the cherrie. Look at the bottom of the blueprint, it reads LB429421.

And again I've found no difference between the round, square, or beveled lube groove pertaining to accuracy, leading, or killing power.

And till now I've had no one prove the square lube groove was better balanced or "lubed the barrel" better, but I'm all ears so prove away.

To get a lathe tool cut to EXACTLY the same angle, that is to the nth degree, is out of human ability. But to get it perfectly square is easy. Elmer designed his bullet with square grooves for 2 reasons. One was for balance, and the other was for more lube in the grooves. I realize that a 6 1/2 inch barrel may not use all the lube, but a rifle barrel will. Every little bit more is a more accurate bullet. Elmer had many disputes over this subject, and I do not pretend to know as much as he did, but he would not back down on this subject. He stood FIRM. So much Lyman and he were not on good terms toward the end. He liked ,I know I am misspelling it Saeco molds because they kept his original design. He cursed the others for rounding and beveling his grooves, and making the front cutting band smaller than the others. They should all be the same.

[QUOTE]07/13/09 at 09:54 PM #26 To get a lathe tool cut to EXACTLY the same angle, that is to the nth degree, is out of human ability. But to get it perfectly square is easy. Elmer designed his bullet with square grooves for 2 reasons. One was for balance, and the other was for more lube in the grooves. I realize that a 6 1/2 inch barrel may not use all the lube, but a rifle barrel will. Every little bit more is a more accurate bullet. Elmer had many disputes over this subject, and I do not pretend to know as much as he did, but he would not back down on this subject. He stood FIRM. So much Lyman and he were not on good terms toward the end. He liked ,I know I am misspelling it Saeco molds because they kept his original design. He cursed the others for rounding and beveling his grooves, and making the front cutting band smaller than the others. They should all be the same.[/QUOTE]

You spelled it correct: Saeco as in Redding/Saeco. These are some of the finest moulds on the market. I use one to produce a lite 45-70 bullet.

When Mr. Keith designed his bullet is was drawn by him offhand on paper. He had no blueprint and refused to make one. If the bullet from the mould looked correct, it was correct. It is true he loved the square grooves and square bands. But I'll stand by the statement that no one has proven the square lube groove to be more accurate than the beveled or to lead less.

I personally feel the greatest thing about the Keith is the full diameter front driving band. The Keith I make differs only in the bullet he drew used a .1" wide band where mine is .090. This make the chambering of the round much better as the brass grows in length or the chambers become dirty.