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KansasScout

Registered: 12/29/09
Posts: 19
12/31/09 at 11:49 PM

I am thinking about getting into casting later this year. What do you all think of Keith type bullets? Are they really much better than a run of the mill SWC? I hear and read of them as well regarded but wonder what ya'll think.

SafarisAfrica

Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 109
01/01/10 at 08:11 AM

I have been using a true Keith bullet mostly cast by Black River  http://www.blackriverbullet.com/

I am very happy with accuracy Keith apparently liked the large square bands well lubed.Most of my loads in fact all of my loads with these bullets are no more than 900 fps. More than that I want it gas checked Keith did not like gas checks even with heavy loads and felt his lubed bands kept leading low.

On my heavier loads .44 mag  300 grain  .511 350 grain  I really like the large flat meplat. But I would not shoot at an animal beyond maybe 75 yards.

KansasScout

Registered: 12/29/09
Posts: 19
01/01/10 at 12:11 PM

I found a RCBS mold that calls itself a Keith type. Any other molds out there you might recommend for Keith types?
Black River bullets looked pretty good but they are expensive and I live in the KC area and think the shipping might kill me too.

I like the idea of gas checks myself and so far I don't see any casting companies making Keith types with square bases so you could gas check them.

On the other hand I am unlikely to need it anyway. If I were to need a hot load I would probably use a jacketed bullet anyway so what am I worried about?

I don't have a .44 yet but if I ever get employed again, I hope to get one this year. With ammo prices so high I am going back to reloading.

marksman45b

Registered: 10/02/09
Posts: 74
01/02/10 at 10:58 AM

KansasScout, Lyman has some good moulds that are Keith design, what caliber were you looking to get, in the .357 the mould #358477 is a 150 grain SWC, in the.41 the mould #410459 is a 220 grain SWC, in the .44 the mould #429421 is a 245 grain SWC in the .45 the mould #452423 is a 238 grain SWC & #454424 is a 255 grain SWC. All are Keith designs which were one lube grove deep and wide for the time and a crimping grove, wide bearing surface for maximum rifling grip and a large semi wad cutter with a big flat nose, in this design he got the best of both worlds the heavy hard hitting slug for hunting and the perfect hole punched for target work.
I use all of these moulds with great satisfaction, they are very accurate when made well, thank you for your post reminding our members to cast in a well ventilated area it is a real hazard that we all can avoid.

 

Creeker

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 53
01/20/10 at 09:58 AM

I've been casting and shooting the bullets below for 37 years. Taking cast bullets as a whole the Keith style is hard to beat. There are others I shoot and like but you can't go wrong with a Keith. Blackriver bullets cost less than mine and shipping is flat rate up to 70 pounds. Order 1500.....................Creeker
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