One more thing.  I would not be surprised if Elmer did like George W. Bush. Elmer was a highly intelligent guy who saw things in a clear line with little fat attached.  Years before 9-11 he felt that if terrorist groups proved to be truly enemies of America they should be crushed.  I was in the VA hospital a couple of years ago.  I noticed these guys going by in the hallways who wore different outfits than the rest of the staff.  I asked a nurse if one of them could come in to see me when they got a chance.  Two of them did on separate occasions.  These were combat veterans of Afghanistan and Iraq.  Been there, done that.  Both of them..I know this may be hard to believe..felt that young Bush was one of our greater Presidents for standing up to the piles of human excrement who murdered all those people in the WTC and elsewhere.  I also heard that at the Safari Club International convention in Reno from enlisted men and officers who were in Iraq.  One fighter pilot Colonel thought of Bush in the same light as did the guys I talked with in the hospital.  I don't know, I wasn't there.  Have any of you seen Kevin Bacon in Taking Chance? Wow! Do so.  One of the more moving films I have ever seen.