Thanks for the replies. These are the answers I'm looking for. As for the time and money spent, I have always gone out of my way to do something myself eventhough I could have bought for less.I heard that ww has alot of trash is that true?As for the time spent, these winters are getting longer the older I get. And now for a real stupid question, the wheel weights, where do you get yours? whats the going rate? Thanks, Don