I know he had a couple cadilacs, that is what his son told me. But I'm not sure what years. Ted also said that Elmer would play with the air cleaners and carbs to get better mileage. It is also my understanding that Elmer was under the belief that the emissions equipment was worthless and didn't help with mpg. Was he onto something?  I have a few other stories about his thoughts on people and rules in general but I'm sure our thoughts are no different than his. About three weeks ago I was at Teds house and asked what would Elmer say about our current President and administration. Again, I don't think it is any different than our thoughts, besides I can't write that kind of stuff on this site.  Have a great fourth, Don