It's a Bowen rough country. For those of you how have never seen a 445 supermag case(that was me included), it's not quite as long as a 460 s&w, but it's not far from it. I had to do a double take when I opened the box of brass I got from Midway. Have some stuff loaded up, but it's been so wet here sence I got the brass, I havn't had a chance to get to the range.